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Fuel Tank capacity issue

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We similarly have been frustrated only put 11-12 gal in with the low fuel warning on in our GHH limited. I did get my dealer to start a TAS case and try and remedy the situation. They apparently only actually did the second time I brought it in... They then told me they recalibrated the sending unit and thought it had 6.2 gal when I left. They asked me to fill it up right away and send them a video of it. They expected it to take 11 gal, it tool 9.7. I was suprised the next fillup around 15 dte took 13.5 gal when the pump shut off. Some movement in the right direction.

I took it back a third time and Toyota directed them to replace the sending unit. Howerer they reported the new and original units both tested and reported the same. So, the note says they left the original installed. When I picked it up they thought the tank was too small. The tech thought it had 1/3 tank (~5.5 gal) and they filled 8.3 gal testing themselves. A couple days later they emailed me that the sending unit doesn't read the first 2.5 gal reserve. So, they now think it adds up.

Unfortunately their math is wrong. If the sending unit only measures 2.5gal to 17.2gal then 1/3 tank is 14.7/3 = 4.9 gal (not 5.5) + 2.5gal reserve. Leaving their total only 15.7 (4.9 + 2.5 + 8.3). It seems like their logic is flawed that they don't actually know the amount of fuel in the tank. They are basing it off of the sending unit, which is in question.

So, I decided to try and test the capacity myself by siphoning it out. It turns out you can siphon the gas out of the tank with a 1/4" pex line. So, I drained the tank when it was down to 1/3 again. (FYI I don't recommend the 1/4" is very slow. It took nearly 3h). I pulled 7.25 gal, but I don't think it drained fully, as it still started and ran fine for a few minutes after (I tried parking on an incline to get more out). Interestingly it continued to state 1/3 tank while moved it around empty. Not wanting to run completely dry, I put 2.5 gal back in, drove to the nearest station (2.1 miles away). It listed a DTE of 15 miles when it started and 13 at the pump. The low fuel light was on the whole way and it accepted 14.01 gallons when the pump shut off.

So, I confirmed the tank holds at least 16.5 gal. I think it likely had the remaining 0.7 below where my siphon could reach, or in a depressed/compartment near the pump pickup. Especially with the earlier report of 18 gal when running completely dry, and the DTE of 15 after adding 2.5 gal. If there is a 2.5 gal reserve the sending unit doesn't know about, it makes sense that it registered that it still had ~0.5gal above that reserve.

There is the chance that my tank is slightly smaller and others larger. Doing some reading it on various sources, I found its common for vehicles to be +/- 3% of stated capacity due to manufacturing tolerances. That could swing 17.2 +/- 0.516 gal. So, it's possible my capacity is slightly diminished, but not the 1.5 gal based on their math (17.2 - 15.7). Planning to follow-up with the dealer after our next tank/fillup.
 
How has your communication with the dealer been throughout this process? Do you feel like they’re taking your concerns seriously?
It's been poor. It was only on the second time when I showed them the tech note to open a case that they actually did it. They claimed they didnt have any notes of doing it the forst time and had to restart. Another owner posted that their dealer fixed the issue on Reddit. They can now fill 14.4 gal. So, I brought them that on my return visit. They said they couldn't act on that and had to follow the process with Toyota because it is the first model year. After they got to the sending unit they told me they'd be in touch with toyota again on Monday (finished on Saturday). A few days later they forwarded me the service record saying they think it's working correctly now with wrong math I described. Now they're texting me for a survey like they think it's resolved.
 
My conclusion was that the tank is probably the right size. The issue is there is too much unusable at the bottom and there is too little fillable at the top.

While some early complainers got some attention that didnt fix anything, anything recent just gets rejected as an issue by the dealership and by Toyota.

YMMV
I would say the recalibration helped. Seems like it got us another gallon before the low fuel warnings start now. They

mentioned it was common, and they didn't have to take anything apart to do it. You just have to get the dealer to care. They should follow their own instructions and start a TAS case like their tech tip recommends.
 
For awareness, here is the tech tip the dealer should follow. Also a fellow owner on reddit posted their dealer replaced the sending unit and they were able to fill 14.4 gal on their next fillup. Reddit post
My dealer also attempted to replace the sending unit, but from their confusing notes its sounds like they concluded the new one read the same as the original and reinstalled the original. I don't think they tested it thoroughly or at empty like the notes from the fix. The tank was around 1/3 when they had it. They had to remove both rows of rear seats to access it. They ripped the headliner, which I'm hoping they'll deal with when they have to pull it for the recall.